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Always Expect a Bulldog To Fight

Discussion in 'General Dog Discussions' started by tat2stuff, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    Aw man. :( Maybe you could order one online?
    I got lucky, when we got B we inherited a breakstick from my mans' uncle who no longer had use for it.
     
  2. pookie!

    pookie! GRCH Dog

    Yea I will look around. I want to get one while we live here there are way to many idiot people with flexi leashes and no leashes, and Bear is growing and has a crazy prey drive that kicks in with small dogs..
     
  3. So glad I stumbled across this post. I'm new to bully breeds 7 the website. NEED HELP...THINK I CAME TO THE RIGHT PLACE. I have 3 rescued greyhounds 2 females, 1 male...rescued an am staff while visiting Detroit out of fear for his life/purpose. He is about 2 now. Worried that he will become aggressive with my male. bought a leather muzzle but hesitate to put it on him for 8+ hours while I am at work. I welcome any suggestions. I know I need help!
     
  4. Jim

    Jim Good Dog

    Keep them separate especially if you are not there. Chains,crate,rooms-whatever works for you
     
  5. brindlexpitt

    brindlexpitt Derpidoo

    putting a muzzle on a dog will cause more of a fight. you need to learn to crate train.
     
  6. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    I agree. Keeping your dogs separated while you're not around to supervise and implementing a crate-and-rotate is the best way to ensure your dogs will be safe.
     
  7. We had our dogs on rotations for playing in the yard away from their chain spots (I feel most bully breeds, and "aggressive" breeds as well, should be chained when not supervised or over 1 dog per person). The husband let Crystal off the chain before Lita, our retired military Czech bred Rottweiler. Lita came roaring up the side yard, caught Crystal and it was on! Lita was 112# at 4 years old. Crystal was 48# at about 2 years old. The husband was still in the back yard, and I was in the middle of these 2 tazmanian devils! Crystal was on the bottom and had Lita by the collar and neck/ruff (all adult dogs have 2 inch double layer leather collars with spikes or studs just in case). Lita was on top and had Crystal by the skull. I grabbed Litas collar because in my experience APBT's will not attack humans while fighting a dog. Rottweilers are bred and trained to bite humans. So I have Lita up on her hind legs, one hand clenched on her collar, and one on her ear. She was shaking Crystal by the skull (top canines on Crystals left side, bottoms on her right, right around her ears) and Crystal was just clamped on and waiting. I was amazed it was pretty much quiet, except the low rumblings between them. I commanded Lita to let go, and she did. By then, hubby was running up. It felt like an hour, but was only a couple mins. He grabbed Crystal by the ribcage and as he picked her up, she just let loose of Lita. It was amazing and I understand why people fought dogs, and also found it interesting that the other dogs, while excited and barking, did NOT join in (2 other APBTs and an american bully) There was little blood, but Crystal had a 4x3 piece of fore head skinned. Figured, since we were 3 weeks out from a conformation show. I called the vet and explained what happened. He told me to clean and manage the wounds, and if there was much swelling or infection, bring them in right away. The next day, my neighbor asked if we had a fight. I said yes, and he was like "I saw it, and didn't hear anything but you say 1 command to the Rottie. I was scared you would get eatten alive by your dogs, but you were so calm and the dogs listened." All I could think was, didn't seem that way to me. LOL! So there is my experience with a fight. There have been others, but that is the most memorable so far.<br><br><br>BTW- Crystal took 2nd at the show, because she tucked her tail at the other dog, not her semi grown scab
     
  8. Imagoodboy

    Imagoodboy Puppy

    Wow, this freaks me out, I already had a problem with my Pit and Boxer. She nipped at him and her ripped into her. Thank god we were able to save her. He is 100 lbs now, he escaped from the yard and very unfortunately killed my neighbors yelping dog, while she was walking her. I know have a 6ft high dog run, muzzles and choke collar. I never take him out of the yard and muzzle him while we walk him in the 6 ft fenced in run. I keep the boxer separate from the Pit, but I also have a female mix breed who is very passive and they are alone all day and they are best friends since he was 8 weeks old. Do I have to worry he might hurt her?
     
  9. Tiffseagles

    Tiffseagles GRCH Dog Premium Member

    You are lucky to still have that dog. Many areas would consider him dangerous and would have seized him from you after he killed your neighbor's dog.

    I would separate them whenever you cannot supervise them. Supervision is a good idea regardless of breed, but when you have dogs prone to dog aggression, it is even more important.
     
  10. Sabrina

    Sabrina Moderator

    I agree with Tiffs' advice.
    However, I am curious as to why you would never take your dog out of the yard and muzzle him while on leash in a run?
    Seems like total overkill to me. He still deserves to get exercise and stimulation, all you need to do is keep him away from other dogs and properly contained.
     
  11. jmsheahan

    jmsheahan Little Dog

    Great Post!! and perfect example of the unpredictable attitude shift of some dogs.
     
  12. pookie!

    pookie! GRCH Dog

    You mean predisposed genetic traits of a type of dog(s) that usually show or surface when those dogs mature or are left alone unsupervised or when not properly contained? How is that unpredictable? Any informed bully breed owner should be privvy to those traits, not all breeds of dogs are rainbows and butterflies, some act like dogs and follow traits they have been bred for. You wouldnt say a hound sniffing was unpredictable behavior, same for a lab or golden wanting to retrieve things, or a collie herding..
     
  13. Kelli227

    Kelli227 Puppy

    Oh goodness, this is SO true!

    My pit, Roxy, was raised with a schnauzer for the first 1 1/2 of her life, then with a male Basset Hound, then with a female Lab puppy and she was so wonderful with all of them. We then rescued a 4 year old female pit from a local county pound and Roxy, 3, was VERY aggressive with her every single time they met. We ended up rehoming the new dog to my father. It is SO important to remember this can happen in the blink of an eye no matter how "perfect" your dog may be!

    Thank you for sharing this, always good to remind people! :)
     
  14. pawsmommy

    pawsmommy Puppy

    I am a new owner of a pit bull terrier puppy (not by choice). I have heard many stories about pit bulls and am a little nervous because I have two young girls (6 & 4). I know that they (the bread) can be a handful. Are there any links in here that can help me with understanding my dog and helping him to be apart of our family? I had heard that pit bulls are usually not fighting dog and that they were bred to be fighters. Is this true. I also heard they can be aggressive if provoked by another dog. I know it sounds like I have never had a dog before, but just isn't the case. The trust is I have NEVER had a pit bull terrier before. I want to be prepared so as to handle all of his needs and we can live happily ever after.
     
  15. pawsmommy

    pawsmommy Puppy

    Sorry guys, It always helps to proof read. Hope you understand what I was try to say in my post.
     
  16. LilianaLove

    LilianaLove GRCH Dog

    To put it simply, the APBT was created to fight other dogs, not people. All dogs have teeth and have the capability to bite people (even dogs without teeth can bite people). Proper training (read: bite inhibition and learning manners, not trick training) and socialization (exposing dogs to all kinds of people- small, tall, dark, light, weirdly moving, fast moving, slow moving) are keys to having a well rounded dog. Dogs settle arguments with teeth, so it is best to never leave dogs alone unsupervised. The APBT and all terriers were created to fight something, it just so happens that APBTs were created to fight dogs. You wouldn't trust a jack russel to be best buds with a rabbit, don't expect APBTs to want to be friends with other dogs.

    Teach your children to respect the dog's space and body. Do not disturb the dog when eating. Do not pull on his ears or tail. Do not poke him in the eyes, ears, or nose. Make all activities with the children and dog positive. Teach the children to teach the dog basic behavioral cues (sit, down, come) and make it a rewarding process for everyone involved. Do not leave the children alone with the dog.

    In the end, it is up to you to not set your dog up to fail. Keep your dog contained so that he cannot get out of your property. Properly exercise your dog so that there is no pent up energy. Understand that your dog will be a medium sized breed and could be anywhere between 35-60lb typically. My friend always says "pit bull love hurts". They have pretty solid heads and can be a little violent when they give you kisses. I would suggest teaching your dog an 'enough' command to learn to stop kissing- seriously, it's the amount of love these dogs have for their people that is the most dangerous part of them :).

    Treat the dog as you would any other dog. Be responsible. Keep him contained, trained, and drained and he'll be a happy dog and a well adjusted member of your household and society.
     
  17. pawsmommy

    pawsmommy Puppy

    Wow, Thank you VERY much. I have been starting to train him a little and he is catching on very nicely. I always remind my girls to NOT pull his tail and stuff like you mentioned. I have seen that he is very attached to me (maybe cuz I feed him :o) I have seen the aggression in him at feeding time as well. I have been working with him and the girls.
    THANK YOU AGAIN for your advice!
     
  18. cliffdog

    cliffdog Good Dog

    One thing you might want to do is teach your dog to wait for his food. Make him sit and move a few feet away from him. Go to put down his bowl. If he stands up or moves toward the bowl, pick the bowl up and make him sit again. Do not let him have his food until you give him the release word to eat. In my house, the release word is "Get it." Not only will this enforce his sit-stays, it will show him that you control the food resource, which could help with food aggression. Of course, no matter how you train him, do not let your kids play with him or get near his food while he is eating, now that you have seen some food aggression.

    It took me FOREVER to find a video! But here's one:
    [video=youtube;17lUsOjYv0w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17lUsOjYv0w&feature=related[/video]
    The only thing I don't like much is how she goes "Ah-ah-ah!" when she removes the food bowl. That's called a verbal correction and it's telling your dog that it did something wrong. I only correct a dog, even verbally, when they KNOW that what they are doing is wrong, which that puppy does not. But obviously it worked, so I suppose no harm done!
     
  19. pawsmommy

    pawsmommy Puppy


    I like what you said and every since I started seeing that aggression I have him sit and I put one figure up and then say stay as I put up my whole hand to him. I start to put the bowl down and if he moves then I say "no" and start all over again. When he finally stops moving towards the bowl then I say "ok" and let him eat. Then I proceed to pet him as he is eating. If he growls at me I grab his neck, take the bowl away and start the process over again, but this time I feed him with little portions with my hand a couple of time. We start the process all over again. I dont know if this is the correct way of handling him but it seems to work.....I do like your mentioning a "release" word. I need to keep it to just one word so as to not confuse him. I notice I do change that word so I will be working on that. Thank you for your post.
     
  20. Flatbedder

    Flatbedder Good Dog

    That dog looks like star lol
     

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