Agression towards dogs at 10 weeks old?

[pattyandpeanut]

Hi all. I have a problem with my 10 weeks old apbt puppy, Peanut. He is with me a little over 2 weeks and he is my first trully own dog and first pitt bull. I am trying to raise him as good as I can, I was preparing for this puppy long time, knowing that breed is not the easiest. I am socializing my pup every day (even got a schedule), he is great with sounds and challenges, not really scared of anything pretty much, which is great, but... exactly. BUT. That kinda freaks me out. But let me start from the beginning. I decided to use only positive reinforcement, never really yell or hit or even push my pup, not really punish him. Of course, like every puppy, he loves to bite and grawl while playing, I am handling him and dealing with that. He is good with other people, but not really very excited with them. Sometimes he is barking but most likely I treat that as invitation to play, if he gets too rough I simple walk away and it works. But I made one mistake during the all process of socialization, and I am scared that it can have influence at all of my dog's life. So, couple days after we got Peanut we decided to visit my friend's house to socialize Peanut with other place, people and dog. They got a young female bulldog mix that is very overwhelming with everybody and anything, but really sweet and harmness. She recently lost one of her back legs, but doing great. We introduced them to each other, but Georgia got so excited, that things got out of control. She started licking the puppy, tapping him with her paw and knocking him down, Puppy was not scared at all, tail up, chest to the front. He got very agressive towards her, bit her and grawled very loud. Since then, he hates her. And he attacks any kind of other dogs. We tried with puppies, big dogs (harmness), smaller. Peanut is bullying all of them. All I want to ask is why is he doing that and if it's possible that he is going to forget about what happened. The other dogs we chose for him were sweet, laying on the ground, sending CS all the times, all he was doing was barking, grawling and biling them in the mouth (they all let him, none of them bit him or grawl him back). What do you think I should do? Is it possible my dog is not going to accept no dogs at all?

 

[bamaman]

Hi all. I have a problem with my 10 weeks old apbt puppy, Peinut. He is with me a little over 2 weeks and he is my first trully own dog and first pitt bull. I am trying to raise him as good as I can, I was preparing for this puppy long time, knowing that breed is not the easiest. I am socializing my pup every day (even got a schedule), he is great with sounds and challenges, not really scared of anything pretty much, which is great, but... exactly. BUT. That kinda freaks me out. But let me start from the beginning. I decided to use only positive reinforcement, never really yell or hit or even push my pup, not really punish him. Of course, like every puppy, he loves to bite and grawl while playing, I am handling him and dealing with that. He is good with other people, but not really very excited with them. Sometimes he is barking but most likely I treat that as invitation to play, if he gets too rough I simple walk away and it works. But I made one mistake during the all process of socialization, and I am scared that it can have influence at all of my dog's life. So, couple days after we got Peanut we decided to visit my friend's house to socialize Peanut with other place, people and dog. They got a young female bulldog mix that is very overwhelming with everybody and anything, but really sweet and harmness. She recently lost one of her back legs, but doing great. We introduced them to each other, but Georgia got so excited, that things got out of control. She started licking the puppy, tapping him with her paw and knocking him down, Puppy was not scared at all, tail up, chest to the front. He got very agressive towards her, bit her and grawled very loud. Since then, he hates her. And he attacks any kind of other dogs. We tried with puppies, big dogs (harmness), smaller. Peanut is bullying all of them. All I want to ask is why is he doing that and if it's possible that he is going to forget about what happened. The other dogs we chose for him were sweet, laying on the ground, sending CS all the times, all he was doing was barking, grawling and biling them in the mouth (they all let him, none of them bit him or grawl him back). What do you think I should do? Is it possible my dog is not going to accept no dogs at all?

You need to study the History of this great breed and you will uunderstand him better.Plenty of history right here on this forum and knowledgeable members to give you advice.Educate yourself <<<>> this is the key.APBTs do not need play pals, they do just fine with thier human owners.If this is not acceptable behavior then I suggest you get rid of him and choose another breed.

 

[bamaman]

Don't become Library food ! We have to stop loading the gun for people who want to rid this great breed from our country.EDUCATION is the only way folks !

 

[Madeleinemom]

Yes, it is possible that Peanut will never interact well with other dogs - other animal aggression is a fairly common trait in this type of dog and may show up very early. No amount of socialization will erradicate what is a genetic predisposition.

 

[bamaman]

Yes, it is possible that Peanut will never interact well with other dogs - other animal aggression is a fairly common trait in this type of dog and may show up very early. No amount of socialization will erradicate what is a genetic predisposition.

See how much tou have learned ! You have experience and knowledge and you show the willingness to learn.Now you can share.

 

[pattyandpeanut]

Thank you for responds. I know the breed history and also that they might not be good with other dogs, but thought maybe socializing him at young age would at least help him to accept other dogs. See, he is accepting other calm dogs if they are not bothering him, he was even playing but only one time with full grown pitt bull female. I understand that he might not like playing with dogs and won't even like them at all, this would never be a reason for me to get rid of him. I love him the way he is and I will accept if he would be the way he wanna be. As long as he won't show no aggression towards people.

 

[Capt. Roxy]

Sometimes no matter how much you try to nurture that dog tolerance/friendliness aspect they still could end up dog aggressive/selective. Even if he does seem to be happy and really playful around dogs or even appears to love other dogs, I would still be very careful around them especially as he matures. Right now he's just a baby so he will be accepting of pretty much everything. Even if there is a doggie bff that he has known since forever, be super careful.

I think it's normal for him to stick up for himself when there is a bigger dog being rude, shoving him to the floor. That is also why sometimes grown dogs who love to play will often end up fighting because it escalates. I think he was just reacting to the negativity he felt. How was the rest of his body language towards that other dog? Was it fearful at the same time? Or more like "gtfo out my face slut" kinda thing?

 

[pattyandpeanut]

Sometimes no matter how much you try to nurture that dog tolerance/friendliness aspect they still could end up dog aggressive/selective. Even if he does seem to be happy and really playful around dogs or even appears to love other dogs, I would still be very careful around them especially as he matures. Right now he's just a baby so he will be accepting of pretty much everything. Even if there is a doggie bff that he has known since forever, be super careful.

I think it's normal for him to stick up for himself when there is a bigger dog being rude, shoving him to the floor. That is also why sometimes grown dogs who love to play will often end up fighting because it escalates. I think he was just reacting to the negativity he felt. How was the rest of his body language towards that other dog? Was it fearful at the same time? Or more like "gtfo out my face slut" kinda thing?

He is not really scared of anything. Everytime we introduced him to any dogs his tail was up or wagging, he was interested and when he started being rough we stopped by giving him a break. His last interaction with dog was last week with 4 month old puppy, he was biting and chasing her, so I brought the food to the place to see if he is maybe scared or terryfied. We ended up by two pups sitting by each other while I was giving them both treats, one after one. They did excellent so they got "jackpot" from my hands, both of them. It was no barking or grawling, no biting. I rewarded both for this behaviour and that is how we finished.

 

[Beret]

While you absolutely should be aware that these dogs tend to be dog aggressive, and stay cautious and diligent...

At 10 weeks, and without me knowing or seeing the situation firsthand, are you so sure that what you're seeing isn't just rude puppy play behavior? If you haven't been around these dogs much before, often that "play" can be mistaken for more when really, the bull breeds do tend to play ROUGH and HARD. And puppies are terrible little creatures to begin with that like to test their chops with older dogs.

 

[pitbulldogs]

puppies are terrible little creatures to begin with

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[pattyandpeanut]

I came to make one update. I figured after some time, that my dog just like to play rough. And he loves other dogs he got his friends and that white Pitbull mix that knocked him down at the beggining is one of his besties They are wrestling and chasing all the time when they see each other and after drinking from the same bowl. Today he was playing with his "girlfriend" Coco. We went for a walk and they were play like crazy for about two hours and after fell asleep by each other by the campfire. It was awesome to watch here some pictures from today:

 

[Madeleinemom]

Thanks for the update from 'rough and tumble'!

Do keep your eyes peeled though, just to make sure that roughousing doesn't escalate :p

 

[pattyandpeanut]

Yeah, we are correcting them everytime things go too rough he already knows command "quit" and "easy", I'm amazed how fast he is learning comparing to my parent's dog I used to raise.

 

[Diesel77]

You should hear my pups when they're playing. It sounds like the meanest, nastiest dog fight ever but it's just them rough housing! Even Ciara gets in on the fun sometimes and Nala just loves to torment herself but winding Ciara up! When we first brough the pups home, we were very careful with the introductions, bringing Ciara to neutral territory before bringing the pups home to see how Ciara would react. We were VERY fortunate that Ciara loves them and mothers them both. She gets involved when the play gets too rough and breaks them up and plays with them amazingly well. She mouths them but she has to show any threatening behavior to either one. Even the few times she has had to put one in their place, she does it gently, per se, without hurting anyone but in a way that the pup KNOWS she's second in command to hubs and I. It's been so fun to watch them grow and see the pack mentality in action but we are always very careful and never leave any two together unattended because you can never be too safe and we'd rather not be sorry! So far so good. They rough house and act like a bunch of terrorists to each other but at the end of the night they are all cuddled together sleeping soundly on our laps or very close to us. Plus Ciara is well trained and the pups have an excellent obedience base so they respond well when redirected or corrected.

 

[ETRaven2]

While you absolutely should be aware that these dogs tend to be dog aggressive, and stay cautious and diligent...

At 10 weeks, and without me knowing or seeing the situation firsthand, are you so sure that what you're seeing isn't just rude puppy play behavior? If you haven't been around these dogs much before, often that "play" can be mistaken for more when really, the bull breeds do tend to play ROUGH and HARD. And puppies are terrible little creatures to begin with that like to test their chops with older dogs.

Do keep your eyes peeled though, just to make sure that roughousing doesn't escalate :p

These are really important things to remember. Learn your dog's body language like it is second nature so you can intervene if needed and quickly.