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african pittbulls info needed

Discussion in 'Bloodlines' started by jake01, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    jake you are quite clearly new to the apbt breed which is fine your probably a youngster......but some of us have been involved with this breed more years than you have been alive.......if you feel you know best then ok,just please be sure to stick with those mongrels and leave the apbt well alone....the fact you think any short coated muscular dog with a blocky head is a pit bull :confused: ....and the fact that the only thing anyone can find out about these dogs is a totally different species of animal !!!!!!......would suggest the reason nobody knows anything about this african pit bull breed is because it doesnt exist !
    we learn when we listen ;)
     
  2. Poisoned

    Poisoned GRCH Dog

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  3. jake01

    jake01 Puppy


    my dogs are true hunters that is what they are bred for and that is what they do. The parents of both the mother and father of my bitch were bought back to australia from africa when my uncles went over on holidays they were all boerboel cross pitty so in a sense they are a bandogg. I dont know too much about my male but i do know that he originates from africa so maybe i was given the wrong impression when they said african pitbull and i am sorry if i have gotten the wrong idea. It would be great if someone could have a look at the picture of my male and perhaps someone might be able to give me an idea of which bloodline he may have come from if thats possible, if it helps his mother looks very simular to him and his dad is black with a white patch on his face and side.
     
  4. megan

    megan Little Dog

    that in africa - Hyena's were called *pitbulls

    Nope they are called hyena's also they are alomost extinct in africa so there is no hyena's walking the street or kept as houshold animals.

    i will say this again there is no such thing as a African pitbull. Take it from a person from "deep dark" africa. WE put african in front to say that it is a mutt. a dog that has been crossed sooooo many times that there is no way to tell what it is


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    and you breeding and mixing with boerboels and sharpei's is only helping to confirm the fact you are breeding deeper in to mutt
     
  5. jake01

    jake01 Puppy

    What is the diference between someone crossing a pitbull with a mastiff and me having a pitbull crossed with a boerboel (farmers mastiff) they would both be considered bandogss correct. For your information i put a APBT cross sharpei over my bitch (she is the boerboel cross pitbull) because i dont breed for show or anything like that. My dogs are hunters the dont go in a dog show or win prizes they hunt that is why i crossed the two of them purely because both mother and father were proven hunters and that is what people wanted. The way some people exploit their dogs makes me sick in my eyes they are the ones who deserve to be criticised if a dog is not to show quality they palm it off to the next person. I take great pride in saying that my dogs are capable of handling a boar, feral goat or kangaroo because i know that i have some of the best hunting dogs in my area i am not saying in australia either by the way i mean in my town and surrounding areas. I asked for some info on which bloodline my male may have originated from, given that you seem to know the bloodlines in africa i thought you of all people may have been able to help me out. If you read my last post you will see that i have realised that african pitbulls are not a breed and that i was obviously given the wrong idea when i was told african pitbull i beleive that maybe they ment they were from an african bloodline and the way they worded it was just a bit confusing if you could please have a look at my pics for me and give me our feed back on his origin it would be great he is the one in the photos with the bitch. Not the fawn one (he is the APBT x Sharpei)
     
  6. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    you are answering your own question....you say he is a apbt x sharpei....so he is a apbt x sharpei !!

    your asking about bloodlines when the dogs are crossbred :confused:

    besides,if your interest is hunting and the dogs do the job then what does it matter how they are bred....just breed good worker to good worker and you wont go far wrong.
     
  7. jake01

    jake01 Puppy

    thats not the one i am asking about the APBT x Sharpei (he was the father of the first litter) the one i am asking about is my APBT in the photos with my bitch if you look at my photos you will clearly see there are 2 different males in them the one on his own is the APBT x Sharpei and the one with the bitch is the APBT
     
  8. mr.clueless

    mr.clueless Good Dog

    to be perfectly honest none of those dogs look like pure apbt to me particularly the white male....theres no telling what breeds could be in there but who cares,if they are working dogs and they do the job then be happy with that and just breed best to best.
     
  9. Poisoned

    Poisoned GRCH Dog

    Without documented lineage, there is no way to figure out what lines they might have been bred down from.

    But, as said, while it's interesting to know, you probably won't ever find out for SURE... So enjoy your dogs, keeping working them, happiest dogs ARE working dogs in my opinion.


    Just curious, what kind of work do they do? They look like all-purpose dogs...
     
  10. jake01

    jake01 Puppy

    I agree the look on my dogs faces when i walk out and tell them w are going out hunting is just incredible the bitch jumps around like a mad hatter and the male will stand there making this almost curdling sort of noise any one on here would know the one i mean lol.

    They both track bail and are brilliant kill dogs the bitch has a few years on the male he is only about 16 months old but is definately one of the best hunters i have ever owned. Other than that though they are two of the most versatile dogs you will ever come across they hunt pigs, feral goats (we have a big problem with them in parts of Australia) and kangaroos amongst other things aswell.

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    I am not sure but i think there may hav been some Am staff thrown in there somewhere down the line its just a guess because he seems to have a rounder head
     
  11. ABK

    ABK Good Dog

    Jake01: The AMERICAN Pit Bull Terrier is so named b/c once the imported Irish & English Staffordshire Bull Terriers immigrated to America with their owners, the dogs were bred up in size & bred for more than one job besides pit fighting. Other breeds may have been added to increase size & farm working ability, thus rendering the resulting dog a Staffordshire Bull Terrier no longer but instead a new, AMERICAN breed, the AMERICAN Bull Terrier. (American Bull Terrier was the breed's original name. The "pit" part was only added later as a concession to those who still fought the dogs.)

    The American Pit Bull Terrier is now set in type & no matter where you take the dogs - North Pole, South Pole or any country in between - they will remain American Pit Bull Terriers so long as they are bred to other American Pit Bull Terriers.

    Now there are exceptions to this. Some mixes "share" the pit bull name. For example in the American South there is a hybrid dog called the "English Pit Bull" or "English Pit." This dog is part English Bulldog & part APBT & breeders of such animals just blended the component breed's names. English Bulldog + APBT = "English Pit." The same goes for the Pit Bull Mastiff. Bull Mastiff + APBT = "Pit Bull Mastiff" And so on. From what I have read in your earlier posts your "African Pit Bull" is a similar hybrid. African Boerboel + APBT = "African Pit Bull" or Rhodesian Ridgeback + APBT = "African Pit Bull." But despite the "pit bull" name in all these hybrids NONE of them are American Pit Bull Terriers, but rather crosses thereof.

    Hope this helps you.

    Blessings ...

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    EDIT: Just wanted to add, I'm not being a butt here but there is no such breed as a PITT Bull.

    PITT is the surname of a famous American actor, Brad Pitt. But it is not a dog.

    PIT is several things - a crevasse where your the lower part of your upper arm meets your upper body in which you must put deodorant or you will smell offensive! Or a pit it could be a hole in the ground, or a metal contraption in which you BBQ meat. But it is not a dog.

    PIT BULL
    is a nick name for the American Pit Bull Terrier & for some the name "pit bull" is an umbrella term for bull & terrier breeds once used to fight. These are dogs. ;)
     
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  12. slick

    slick Puppy

    african pitbull i was watching the news the police raid a drug house and said they recoverd some african pitbulls they look like mastifs they call every dog a pitbull that is becomeing a problem

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  13. Budboy88

    Budboy88 Good Dog

    lmao wow.
     
  14. mashamplan

    mashamplan Puppy

    I am from sunny south africa and have been involved with the breed since the end of the 90s. Most owners of the breed will never think of crossing to other breeds. The original dogs imported to the country were brought in by Mr Bensch from Mr Carver and were a 62.5% Stomponato male named bullet, later changed to liquorice kid, a son of CH Diamond, named carver and a 75 % Stomponato female named stephens kaffir. He later imported 2 bolio bred dogs, big brother off homer, and bolio beauty off howler before bringing in dogs from bobby hall off his swamper dog, ch brujo and shorty. He has also brought in 2 dogs from Enrique Morfin. Another fancier Mr Botha had 2 littermates in his yard off GR CH Yellow named, david and tanny. he imported a female off CH Sundance, named Bells Lady that was pregnant from Sundances son Bells Hollywood. He also imported 2 females from CH Rattler breeding named Bells Bella and Bells Lonesome Dove together with 2 females from CH K. Allans Butch
     
  15. Boogieman

    Boogieman Good Dog Premium Member

    This thread is a joke right LOLOLOLOL

    African pit bull LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Look out everybody the byb's have a new term to use! Cross that with the GataMouf and you'll have a rare AFrican GataMouf you can get $4000 for!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Don't forget they all go back to the Colby dogs though! LOLOLOL Sorry to anybody who happens to own a nice Colby dog, I couldn't help myself! :D
     
  16. countess_amy

    countess_amy Puppy

    call it a breeding project(but wait what are the reasons you are breeding them that way at all? boardog? o.O) what is the reason why you are crossing those dogs? are you a hunter? do you want to create them for conformation? do you try to improve the boerboel health? well we all know pits, many of us know swinford-bandogs, and why mr. swinford bred them, but why cross these dogs together. that what i guess this ist, must be a hyperactive dog with enormous needs of exercise, with enormous guarding ambitions, a more stocky built, a broader head, very dominant, difficult to handle, not a beginners dog, and strong willed. other dogs especially of the same sex might be problematic? please tell me if i'm wrong.
    which kind of "pit bull" was used for that game? the boerboele, are the forefathers of your dog hd and ed x-rayed?

    overall bull shit, there may have been bull and terriers in the colonies, but first of all started of with dutch mastiffs(bullenbijter) in Jan van Riebeeks times, later the british brought in ther pits and staffs and there was bull terrier bred into the boer dogs, but never represented a SA Bull terrier. there never was anything like a south african pit bull, i guess you think about manukau pit dogs, gull terr and bull terr colonial fighting strains from former british india, which are more or less rare anyway. but there was nothing started up like this in good old SA, they probably just used the british fighting dogs for fights.

    who told you that you own a south african pit bull, for me this sounds like some of the american cane corso rumors, and pretending to own a revolutionary new breed l, with some dogs with not even one drop cc or even mezzocorso in their pedigree. i guess ye got bamboozled by somebody?

    there are two things beeing an english pitty, first of all the sad condition of english bulldogs and the other is better known as the british misery,it was the footballgame on 27th of June 2010 in Bloemfontein xDDD !germany striked 4:1 or at least 4:2.
     
  17. ganja

    ganja Good Dog

    LOL african pit bulls... now I've heard it all :rolleyes:

    I guess I have one of those Polish pit bull terriers LMFAO

    quite honestly, except that sharpei cross, there is not much that looks like apbt's about those dogs..


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    :lolbangtable: this post is even worse than that gator thread and that "pit bulls are not pure bred dogs" thread :lol:
     
  18. junkyard

    junkyard Puppy

    This thread is awesome.


    Any one want to buy an Australian pit bull terrier?
     
  19. ganja

    ganja Good Dog

    looking for a stud dog junkyard?
    heard they are the ones with those huge cutters...
    such a bitch will be a GREAT match for my polish pit bull terrier! :lol:
     
  20. SA_Bullet

    SA_Bullet Puppy

    Excuse me but thats a load of crap lol The federation has some of the best Dogs arround I hardly think its suffice to say that Jakes White elephant exists at PBFSA lol next thing youll be quoting the tooth fairy :) [​IMG] Nutty [​IMG]
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