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ADBA style dogs in UKC conformation

Discussion in 'Pit Bull Shows & Events' started by Swolf, Jun 22, 2016.

  1. Swolf

    Swolf Little Dog

    I'm sure this topic has been done before but the search feature is being a little wonky for me.
    Anyone willing to share (preferably more recent) experiences with showing ADBA style dogs in UKC conformation shows?
    Obviously ADBA prefers a far more conditoned look, but a lot of the UKC dogs I've seen look structurally closer to the AKC Am Staffs.
    Is it because that's what UKC actually favor or because the ADBA style dogs just don't show up? Does it variy judge to judge? Is it even worth my time to do more than sporting events with the UKC?
     
  2. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    It really depends on the judge (in any registry, really). Some are going to prefer the more Amstaff looking dogs, while others will prefer the ADBA dogs. SevenSins has his dogs out in UKC and they do well, so he might chime in here.
     
  3. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    Oh don't even get me started. LOL Most UKC judges are either AKC crossover, or apprentice under and learn from AKC crossover judges. There IS the occasional, albeit rare UKC judge who appreciates an actual APBT in the APBT breed ring, but in general, most UKC judges will award placements to AmStaffs regardless of structure and/or temperament. We actually had a situation where one judge literally separated out the APBTs (not just ours) from the AmStaffs, lined them up on the other side of the ring and left the owners standing there utterly confused while she went over the AmStaffs and awarded placements. In another case, a judge awarded placement to a structural trainwreck who literally pissed all over herself when the judge went to touch her, over several nicely structured, moderate APBTs (again, not just ours). If you want to have some fun, ask the judge what they didn't like about your dog, and keep a tally of how many say either "he's a little small..." or "he's too skinny." Bonus points for both. I still recommend going, because I believe that judges should see actual APBTs in their breed ring, but that's just me...
     
  4. smalldog

    smalldog Little Dog

    I had a amstaff I took to a adba show. The judges liked his attitude but he was to big with wrong angulation and the judge said he would do better at a ukc show. They were right ass He got older he couldn't work very hard do to bad angulation He walked to much on his back toes and do to that he would wear his nail down to were they would bleed in a 10 - 15 minutes bike ride and he had no stamina and could not build stamina do to that reason. My correct APBTS don't have that problem.
     
  5. smalldog

    smalldog Little Dog

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  6. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    Do you have a pedigree for him? Because a red nose and those super light eyes are just something you don't often see on Amstaffs..
     
  7. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    I'm under the assumption that that's a UKC AmStaff mix and not an AST. If that's pure AmStaff, I'd almost put money on him being down from Percy.
     
  8. BCdogs

    BCdogs Good Dog Staff Member Super Moderator

    I thought it was his APBT he was sharing a photo of.
     
  9. smalldog

    smalldog Little Dog

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    He was registered adba and ukc as a APBT.
     
  10. NobodyHere

    NobodyHere Guest

    Ok, so not a pure AmStaff, but AmStaff/APBT (by pedigree) if you go back several gens, along with, well...questionable ancestry.
     
  11. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    Okay, makes more sense now. When I saw he was referred to as an Amstaff I was like "Hmm..."
     
  12. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Good Dog

    If you can afford it, yes, make your presence known in the UKC ring!

    Let's not forget all the "not bully enough" Bullies in the UKC APBT ring too. -____- Yes, by all means, get your Bully puppy Ch titled as an APBT before it matures and starts looking more bully, just because you can. Ugh.
     
  13. Swolf

    Swolf Little Dog

    Sorry for the slow response, since the site update the mobile version hasn't been as user friendly for me and I usually access the page from my cell phone.

    UKC does not have a registry to report to the same way as AKC usually does correct? So no polite 'please revisit the standard' I assume?

    Please tell me that judge was called out on that. A dog that pees everywhere from a judge approaching should have been excused from the ring not placed.
    I take it your overall experience has not been good...

    I'll more than likely enter local UKC events. I understand it's important for judges to see the dogs, and if they aren't there to win things can never change; but who wants to travel, get a hotel room, and pay entry fees if the judge may not even give your dog the time of day?

    I wasn't aware that was a thing. That would prevent registration change to Am Bully as well wouldn't? Great show of ethics there...
     

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