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A Thread for the Imperfect.

Discussion in 'Dog Debates' started by skmutt, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    So the APBT has a specific standard that is generally supposed to be adhered to. A "perfect" example of the breed... we all know what the general outline of this standard is as we are all American Pit Bull Terrier lovers.
    Now all of the people with "perfect" APBTs dont have to respond to this thread but let me hear what traits your APBT has that doesn't fit the general description! Feel free to post even if your dog isn't registered out the ass. Be honest folks!

    My "mutt" (pit bull mix) tends to guard if there is a threat (and only if there is a threat). She has never once bit anyone just showed her discomfort with the threat in question (more use of body weight then anything).
    She is lazy and has little drive.
    She can be unsure in new situations.
    She fucking LOVES other dogs.

    Ok your turn! *turn your flamethrowers on all of you owners of perfect, flawless, god like dogs*
     
  2. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    Just because a dog has a good temperament doesn't make it perfect. American Pit Bull Terriers, well bred, and their mixes (depending on what they are mixed with) are terrible guard dogs. If by guard you mean barking and being intimidating, all dogs do that. But as for actually attacking someone who comes into your house, no. I will not accept any pit bull willing to bite a human hand. My dogs bark, but once the 'threat' appears in their range they run or just greet them. With how laws are, I don't want my dogs to 'guard' anything.
     
  3. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    Barking and raising hackles at a threat. That's the extent of what she has done.
     
  4. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    Then thats fine. Dogs to a degree do that to all things they see as a threat. But Never should she attack said thing she is raising her hackles to.
     
  5. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    I never stated that she did. BUT if this person/dog (the threat) attacked ME, my dog would certainly not sit there quietly.
     
  6. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    This depends. As for a dog attacking you, yes i'm sure your dog will get involved because they understand the treat the other dogs presents. But As for protecting you from another person, again a sound pit bull wouldn't do this. They would just sit there. If you want a protective breed you should have gotten a rottie or a Shepherd. I'm sorry, and I would never teach my dogs to protect me against a person because of laws. I don't want to loose my dog because they were protecting me. Police don't understand that when it comes to pit bulls.
     
  7. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    I didn't teach her anything. Her attacking someone that is a threat is an assumption on my part.... who knows? Maybe she would walk into the other room and have a nap but I kind of doubt that. I'm sorry but I disagree fully- attacking a person that is attacking a member of the family or a "pack member" does not in any way make ANY breed unsound.
    Also the part in bold-- the dog would also know the threat that the human poses.
     
  8. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

    Unless you've actually put this theory into active practice, you have zero guarantee of what you're saying
     
  9. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    Then make sure to let us know when this actually happens and police is taking away your dog! :waves: I'm done.
     
  10. SBTlove

    SBTlove Good Dog

    Honestly I do think its kind of dangerous to just assume your dog would defend you in the case of attack or home invasion. Personally I think its a good idea to know some level of self defence, and always be aware of your surroundings, and just take general measures to protect yourself and your dog. Would your dog attempt to defend you if you were attacked, maybe, but at the end of the day your dog won't stand a chance against an attacker with a gun or a knife. Can a dog be a good deterent? Yes but I would never count on the dog to defend you, unless it's a trained for that.
     
  11. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    I suppose not.
     
  12. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    I don't rely on her completely.
     
  13. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    Anybody want to volunteer posting your dogs flaws or is this a forum full of only perfect Apbt?
     
  14. LovePup

    LovePup Good Dog

    none of our dogs are perfect. And you claiming as much is very ignorant.
     
  15. _unoriginal

    _unoriginal Cow Dog

    I don't own an APBT.
     
  16. DancesWithCurs

    DancesWithCurs Good Dog

    Then there's no point in saying it. You hope your dog will stand up for you, and as people have learned and will keep learning, it's a foolhardy thing to put your faith into

    The whole "I'm a slighted victim in a forum full of owners with perfect APBTs" thing is getting kind of old. You need to lurk more. Contrary to what you may believe, no one has issues with mutts or "imperfect" dogs within reasonable terms. It's really only a big deal because you're trying to make it that way, but what you seem to miss is that quite a few, if not the majority of the people on this board own either mixed breeds or dogs that have had some sort of oddity about them or there's something about their dog(s) they don't or didn't like. My lab/pit was dumb as hell and used to piss me off with his need to hump things all the time and the constant need to try to french me when I was in his face and the way he used to sit within 2 inches of my face to try to steal food from my plate. Whoop dee friggin doo. I still loved him and I still don't feel the need to justify his existence. He was born an weirdo and he died a weirdo and I loved him for it. Physically, aside from your dog being purple with a pair of extra legs, as long as it's physically and healthy and you're not trying to be an idiot with your dog, no one gives a shit. Love your dog, and chill out
     
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  17. kady05

    kady05 Krypto Super Dog

    I don't have APBT's. And I'm not sure why you have such an attitude, either.
     
  18. SBTlove

    SBTlove Good Dog

    I don't have an APBT and never have had one. I have a mutt, but hey she is pretty darn perfect to me lol. You know except that she is slightly overweight, her recall sucks, and she can be a real pain in the butt when she comes across a squirrel or a rabbit. Still not too shabby if I do say so myself. I don't know if you realize this but a good portion of the members on this forum have adopted dogs, many being mutts/mixed breeds. There are several members on here that don't own an APBT. A lot of people are here to learn more information regarding the breed before making that leap. Which is a very good thing. Some people here are not in a position just yet to own the breed, but love the breed just the same. Then at the same time we also have members that have been involved with the breed for years and their knowledge is extensive.

    I'm not sure where you are getting this idea that we are a bunch of people who think we have "perfect APBT" because none of us have a perfect dog and none of us are perfect. We have however done a lot of research and are aware of what is expected via breed standard but yes there are always exceptions to the rule
     
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  19. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    Whoa there... settle...
    I have just discussed certain things with specific members on this forum and they act like their dogs are perfect. Mine isn't and I accept her flaws. I have been told to re-home on this forum, I have been told I should plant her on this forum.
    It is slightly difficult not to take offense to that so I decided to be VERY open and forthcoming about the bullshit that comes along with my particular dog so that if I am flamed by members at least they can get it right lol.
    I decided a long time ago with ANY breed of dog that if they outright attacked and bit someone-- they should be euthed ASAP. I would not take the risk as I have children.
    Maybe guard is not the correct word for how she acts when she sees something "off". She does raise her hackles (she does that a lot actually), she does growl and bark a bit and that is the extent of it. Maybe I should not assume that she would physically defend me but if she did I would not fault her for it.
    I am simply being honest. That's how I roll. So ease off my back a bit...
    kady-- ^^^ the bold is why I have a bit of an attitude.
     
  20. skmutt

    skmutt Banned

    The statement i made about perfection wasn't meant to be a blanket statement. Just specific members with bad attitudes. I appreciate your honesty about your dogs quirks.
     

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