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400,000 sign petition to remove Michael Vick

Discussion in 'Pit Bull News' started by Michele, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    (FOX NEWS) -- A petition calling for the NFL to remove former Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick as one of four Legends captains at the 2020 Pro Bowl has gained momentum -- generating hundreds of thousands of signatures due to his past history of animal abuse that was uncovered nearly 12 years ago.

    As of Saturday at 4 p.m., more than 400,000 people had signed the petition started by Joanna Lind on change.org with the goal of removing the former quarterback from a role where he would "be honored" and act as a mentor for the players.

    "Just saw this on Facebook and was absolutely disgusted," Lind wrote. "When is the NFL going to take any responsibility for the behavior of its current and former players? To honor a man who had zero regard for animals is unacceptable and I would like your help to make sure he is NOT honored at the 2020 NFL Pro Bowl."

    In 2007, Vick served 18 months of a 23-month sentence in federal prison after he was found guilty of running a "cruel and inhumane" dogfighting ring operation in Virginia, titled "Bad Newz Kennels."

    On the petition page, Lind shared an excerpt from the book "The Lost Dogs: Michael Vick's Dogs and Their Tale of Rescue and Redemption," which goes into greater detail of the animal abuse.

    His fall from grace also resulted in his bankruptcy and shattered reputation. He was out of the league for the 2007 and 2008 NFL seasons until his comeback with Philadelphia Eagles in 2010.

    Following his jail sentence, Vick threw for 10,959 yards for the Eagles, New York Jets and Pittsburgh Steelers before retiring in 2017. He signed as a Fox Sports analyst soon after.

    The other Legends captains scheduled to participate at the Jan. 26 Pro Bowl in Orlando will include Pro Football Hall of Famers Terrell Davis, Darrell Green and Bruce Smith.

    https://www.fox5ny.com/news/more-th...ove-michael-vick-as-honorary-pro-bowl-captain
     
  2. People still hate that dudes guts lol what he did to the dogs was absolutely wrong, f—ked up and terrible but he did his time and did what he was supposed to do. I know dogs can maybe more loyal and have better qualities than most humans but still, they aren’t humans .

    Didn’t ray Lewis kill a mofo? people never gave him flack like they do vick. Those same people complaining about vick probably don’t even give a shit about the human baby abortion holocaust
     
  3. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    He didn't do the time for animal abuse. He did time for racketeering. The animal abuse charges were dropped.
     
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  4. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Administrator

    This thread isn't about Ray Lewis, it's about Michael Vick, keep the discussion on topic.
     
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  5. people need to ‘fall back’ on him. I was in grade school and everyone was sh-tting on him they still are today lol such is life .
     
  6. But I understand both sides too Vick did do some malicious things to those dogs
     
  7. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member

    He served his time and then some. Anyone who still even thinks about that case needs mental help. He wasn't the one fighting the dogs anyway he bank rolled Badnewz Kennels and admitted to culling a few. The problem with the general public is they know about as much about dogfighting as I do about rocket science. There is a fine line between sport and cruelty. One never lives down this kind of thing, I known this from first hand experience years before Vick got arrested. People still hold on to it even though it was 18 years ago. People like that are why this country has been on a steep slide downwards for the last 15 to 20 years. Everyone always be worrying about everyone else rather than what they doing.

    I stand with Vick. Fμ©k what people think. People so worried about him yet the the rest of the NFL be domestic abusers beating on their wives and no one bats an eye at it. Shows you the shitbag kind of world we live in anymore where an animal is more important than a human. Frankly it's sickening. Thankfully the NFL as well as Nike have decided to say Fμ©k the peta and tree humpers and are allowing him to be apart of the pro bowl along with a nice contract from Nike. Good to see at least a few still have something in their head other than shit.


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  8. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    AGK: I respect your thoughts on this but I disagree. The charges for animal abuse were dropped so he served time for racketeering. Those dogs were tortured and then murdered and he's sorry because he got caught. He culled a few alright....he tortured them. That's not my idea of humanely culling a dog.
    I also despise domestic abuse and those NFL players who do that should be kicked to the curb too.
     
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  9. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member

    So you feel he should be punished for the rest of his life for something he did almost 15 years ago? He may not have went to jail on every charge but he paid more in fines and lost endorsement deals from that ordeal than pretty much more than every dogfighter whos ever been convicted had to pay, combined. Not to mention being in jail for what basically would have been his prime playing years. He also helped out them pukes at the HSUS for years being Waynes Parcells bitch. I guess I feel there are much bigger problems in the world than what some man did to some dogs almost a few decades ago now. Hell, like 80% of the NFL be criminals and spousal abusers and no one bats an eye. Do something regarding an animal and it becomes a life sentence. I just can't get behind that way of thinking. Whether he got those charges dropped or not was on the DA's prosecuting the case, not him. The money was is the bigger offense to the government.

    This country is funny anymore. It used to be you get caught, you do the time and move on and in theory are innocent until proven guilty. Both those are non existant anymore. What he did with dogs don't erase him being a top athlete or his achievements prior to and after the incident. It would be like my job firing me today for getting caught at a dogfight in 02. That's just total overkill. Hell, people who kill other people get less backlash than that man got and still has to deal with daily.
     
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  10. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member

    lol just for the record, I never been a fan of a quarterback that can't stay in the pocket. So I have no reason to defend him other than he did the time that he was charged in accordance with the law and should be allowed to continue on with his life just like anyone else.

    If he wasn't a black famous athlete would he still get the treatment he does....... My guess is absolutely not.
     
  11. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    For me, I just can't digest the way those dogs were killed. Those that did that are pure evil. Culling a dog humanely is one thing. Torturing a dog is a whole other level of evil. Michael Vick and those involved are pure evil.
     
  12. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member

    They plugged most of them in. We find that acceptable for humans but not dogs?

    I'm not a fan of the method but it works and is effective.
     
  13. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    The men tested the dogs in fights, then shot, electrocuted, or hung dogs who did not perform well.

    “In or about April 2007, PEACE, PHILLIPS, and VICK executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in ‘testing’ sessions … by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog’s body to the ground.” (Federal indictment PDF)

    A report by a U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) investigator provided more details on the April 2007 killings, saying that the men hung approximately three dogs “by placing a nylon cord over a 2 X 4 that was nailed to two trees located next to the big shed. They also drowned approximately three dogs by putting the dogs’ heads in a five gallon bucket of water.” They killed one dog by “slamming it to the ground several times before it died, breaking the dog’s back or neck.”

    According to a witness, the men fought their trained pit bulls with pet dogs, and they “thought it was funny to watch the pit bull dogs belonging to Bad Newz Kennels injure or kill the other dogs.”

    Dogs who lost fights were sometimes executed:

    “In or about March of 2003, PEACE, after consulting with VICK about the losing female pit bull’s condition, executed the losing dog by wetting the dog down with water and electrocuting the animal.” (Federal indictment PDF)

    https://aldf.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/vick_federal_indictment.pdf
     
  14. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    October 12, 2007 The Federal Case – Vick Lied about Killing Dogs
    Even after pleading guilty to the federal charges, Vick had not admitted to hands-on participation in the killing of poorly performing dogs. Investigators got conflicting statements from Vick’s co-conspirators. An FBI agent questioned Vick for five hours and gave him a polygraph test that indicated he was lying. Vick finally admitted to killing two dogs. According to Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Gill, Vick told the polygrapher, “I carried a dog over to Quanis Phillips, who tied a rope around its neck. I dropped the dog.”
     
  15. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    A quick survey of Georgia, a caramel-colored pit bull mix with cropped ears and soulful brown eyes, offers a road map to a difficult life. Her tongue juts from the left side of her mouth because her jaw, once broken, healed at an awkward angle. Her tail zigzags.

    Scars from puncture wounds on her face, legs and torso reveal that she was a fighter. Her misshapen, dangling teats show that she might have been such a successful, vicious competitor that she was forcibly bred, her new handlers suspect, again and again.

    But there is one haunting sign that Georgia might have endured the most abuse of any of the 47 surviving pit bulls seized last April from the property of the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick in connection with an illegal dogfighting ring.

    Georgia has no teeth. All 42 of them were pried from her mouth, most likely to make certain she could not harm male dogs during forced breeding.
     
  16. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

  17. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member

    Hanging was also widely acceptable for humans. I'm not disputing that he killed some dogs. Still don't feel it's a life sentence. Death by hanging and electroction was up until like 10 or 15 years ago was perfectly acceptable form of capital punishment.

    Almost all of that stuff wrote is nothing more than the writter of the article putting much emotion into his writing.

    To each their own but it still don't equate to a lifetime of punishment IMO.
    It's a dog...... Thousands of them get put in gas chambers or get the needle monthly. Culling is necessary in any animals breeding program. Now I myself wouldn't cull either way but the end result is the same.
     
  18. AGK

    AGK Scratch Kingz Staff Member

    Plus again, this was all over a decade ago.
     
  19. Michele

    Michele Chi Super Dog Administrator

    I agree that culling is necessary but there's a humane way to do it and then there's the Vick way to do it. I just feel that he isn't sorry, he's just sorry he got caught. I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with some of the things you said AGK. Not all of them, but some.
     
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  20. Mister

    Mister Little Dog

    A little good came from Vick’s case. At the time the humane groups fought in the courts to kill the dogs (as they always did) and were adamant Vick’s dogs were all highly dangerous and should be killed ASAP. Thanks to those who thought different, not only did the majority of Vick’s dogs live but it showed the public just how much and long, those humane hypocrites had been hating and lying about the apbt. In that small way the Vick case has helped in changing the public opinion of seized dogs.
     
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