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“XL Pit Bulls” really a thing..?!?!

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Capt. Roxy, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. Capt. Roxy

    Capt. Roxy Good Dog Premium Member

    okay, what...? But these aren’t real pit bulls...?

     
  2. Capt. Roxy

    Capt. Roxy Good Dog Premium Member

    He also just pretty much called gamebred dog owners dogfigters LOL... wow dude-
     
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  3. Nat Ursula

    Nat Ursula Good Dog

    Yes, he said that American Pit Bull terrier owners need to become better owners!

    Other than that it was hard to focus on what he was trying to say with those stupid sun glasses!
     
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  4. Worg

    Worg Little Dog

    It's possible, but would take many generations of selective breeding (largest to largest) to achieve a dog of the same breed that is drastically larger. Generally speaking I'm super skeptical of over sized dogs claimed to be purebred.
     
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  5. GK1

    GK1 Puppy

    I have ADBA Gazettes from the mid 1990’s with advertisements of 80-100+ pound dogs supposedly pure bred APBTs…’game bred giants’. I presume many of these dogs were both ADBA and UKC registerable.
     
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  6. Worg

    Worg Little Dog

    Seems like it would be really hard to find a match for a dog that big, considering how rare they are (assuming they existed at all).
     
  7. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    It wouldn't be the first time purebred dogs have been bred biggest to biggest and the result of been larger-than-standard purebred specimens of the breed. I remember the Kimbertal Dobes from back in the 70s that were advertised at 31' and 120 pounds. I think selective breeding for size would work rather well in the APBT, being 2 rather different sized types of dogs are in its background , thereby providing for a tremendous genetic variation to work with. Just concentrate on those dogs that show a lot of bulldog characteristics! You can get the little terrier-type the same way.
     
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  8. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    I doubt they were matched. Like today, they were just a status/look-at-me dog to have.
     
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  9. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Same here for Gazettes I have from the late 70's into the 80s. As I remember, the peds that were shown didn't have Am Staf....
     
  10. Mister

    Mister Little Dog

    Not common but they did exist. The owners of those xl mutts are talking about what weight their dogs weigh on the chain or how obese they can get them, not what they weigh fit (I doubt many of those xl owners know or care what a fit dog is). Back in the day most of these extra large dogs if they were done were shown at catch weight. Fit is considerably lower than chain weight. Biggest bulldog I see weighed 90+lbs otc but fit was 65lbs, I could just imagine these xl owners easily fattening him up to where he weighed well over 100lbs.
     
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  11. Worg

    Worg Little Dog

    I would think that is going into American bully territory though, but I guess I've not seen the peds of these 90+ lb dogs. I keep my dog very lean all year around so this idea that dogs can gain over 10 lbs during non competition times? Very bizarre to me.
     
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  12. Mister

    Mister Little Dog

    How’s that going into American Bully territory? I’m talking of a rare overly large straight bred bulldog also a legit ch. Am bullies are just a mongrel breed that weren’t even in existence when the dog I’m on about was alive. Just because some bulldogs get large doesn’t mean these overly large dogs can go on and consistently produce bulldogs that weigh 100lbs. Something else has to be added to get that breedable large size consistency.
    It’s not a good idea to keep your dog “very lean” all the time. Healthy lean dogs need fluctuations in body weight to prevent them getting stale. My dogs are kept leaner than most but I allow their weight to vary for both mental and physical wellness and for the time of year. Maybe bizarre to you but dogs kept outside up north in a cold winter need to be kept way heavier than an indoor dog or a dog from a hot humid climate.
     
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  13. Worg

    Worg Little Dog

    If a purebred Pit Bull is specifically bred to be large then that is ambully breeder mentality, this is what many breed for and even keep their dogs obese to reach those high numbers.

    Yep my dog is neither outdoor in the cold or in humid climates. my dog is active and keeps herself lean, I don't fight this, considering she is spayed I would rather not risk her becoming over weight.
    Can you explain how being fit year around makes a dog stale?
     
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  14. Capt. Roxy

    Capt. Roxy Good Dog Premium Member

    Side note, Kiba looks good Worg! Very nice!! I see shes' been working those lats super hard /:) Nice work!
     
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  15. Sagebrush

    Sagebrush Good Dog

    Back then, if they DID breed for size, they didn't have "am bully" mentality, they had "giant Pit Bull" mentality. IMO, there is a difference (although I don't like either one). The "am bully" mentality -- in this day and age -- is much more status and money driven. And the dogs I have seen WERE big, but didn't have such deformed features such as very short muzzles and legs and obscene mass.
     
  16. Worg

    Worg Little Dog

    To be fair people have been breeding many breeds solely for size decades before the ambully was a thing, GSDs are a great example (as in some breeders are trying to make bigger dogs, not the breed as a whole is getting bigger). I did not mean to say AmBullies are the only breed bred for size.
     
  17. Mister

    Mister Little Dog

    You seem confused, Pit Bulls bred specifically for nothing but large size is xl Pit Bull mentality not Ambully mentality. Ambulls are bred more for exaggerated physical features or grotesque appearance and come in a variety of sizes from pocket up to xl.

    Dogs don’t keep themselves lean, it’s the owners who control every aspect of a dogs life that ultimately determines the condition a dog is in. Keeping a dog lean doesn’t mean it’s fit, leanness can be easily controlled by diet alone. Fitness is a combination of diet, exercise and rest, without sufficient rest periods a dog becomes stale through overwork and it’s performance can suffer either mentally and/or physically.
     
  18. Worg

    Worg Little Dog

    I've already covered your first paragraph as you are just repeating yourself, but again how does keeping a dog fit all your round make them stale? I would really like an answer to this.
     

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