[maryellen]

For those that feed raw, here is a compiled list of books, websites, etc courtesy of someone else
some great websites and books for those wanting to go to BARF diets with their dogs:

www.njboxers.com/faqs.htm
www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html
www.sundaysaver.com/

pets.groups.yahoo.com/gro...-Supplier/
Books:
The BARF Diet by Ian Billinghurst, DVM
Home-Prepared Dog & Cat Diets: the Healthful Alternative
by Donald R. Strombeck
Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats by Kymythy Schultze
Work Wonders by Tom Lonsdale, DVM
The Holistic Guide for a Healthy Dog by Wendy Volhard
Switching To Raw by Susan K. Johnson
The New Natural Cat by Anitra Frazier
Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats by Richard Pitcairn, DVM and Susan Hubble Pitcarin
The Complete Herbal Handbook for the Dog and Cat by Juliette de Bairacli Levy
Raw Dog Food by Carina Beth McDonald
Websites:
General Information About Raw Diets
Raw Learning Site
The Top 50 BARF FAQ for Beginners
WellPet's Nutrition Articles
Caber Feidh's Holsitic Care Articles (site owned/articles written by sfraw member, Christie Keith)
RawFed.com
US Raw Meaty Bones Organization
Raw Connections

Articles
What's Best, Cooked or Raw?
Do Dogs and Cats Need Grains?
The Importance of Feeding a Natural Diet
Natural Diet for Dogs and Cats by Jeff Levy DVM
Why Raw?
Is A Raw Diet Dangerous? by Dr. Wysong
Why Cats Shouldn't Eat Dry Food

Raw Diet Guru Websites
Richard Pitcairn
Ian Billinghurst
Wendy Volhard
Tom Lonsdale
Kymythy Schultz
Sue Johnson
Marina Zacharias - based on Juliette de Bairacli Levy's diet
Monica Segal
Feline Specific Sites
Pottenger Cats study
Cat Nutrition
Feline Future
Holisticat
Raw Fed Cats
Michelle T. bernard's diet
How to prepare fresh cat food by Christine M. Ruessheim
Canine Specific Sites
The BARF Pictorial
Raw Dog Ranch Step-by-Step Pictorial
Raw Fed Dogs
Lew Olson
Dogaware
4LoveofDog
Forums:
Raw Diet Lists
The RawFeeding List (the biggest raw diet list - you should start here if new to raw)
The RawDiet List
The RawPaws List
The RawChat List
The BARFWorld List (hosted by veterinarian, Dr. Ian Billinghurst)
The advBARF List (for advanced discussions - no beginners, please)
The Basic Raw List (for those following more of a Lonsdale/whole carcass approach)
The BARFLite List (for those who feed cooked meat or kibble in addition to raw)

General Health Lists
WellPet (the original pet health list)
The NaturalPet List
The HolisticPet List
The Pets4Homeopathy List
Feline Lists
The Holisticat List
The CatBARF List
The CatNutrition List
The RawCat List
The FelineFutureDiet List
The CatWell List (general cat health, not just diet)
Canine Lists
The K9NutritionStudyGroup List
The RawPup List (great for learning to feed puppies raw)
The RawBreeder List
The NaturalRawDog List
The SeniorRawFeeding List
Ferret List
The NaturalFerret List
For breed specific raw groups, please go to the Yahoo! Groups site and do a search for your breed "+ BARF" or "+ raw". You will usually find a list specifically tailored to fanciers of your breed and/or breed type (sighthounds, giant breeds, toy breeds, etc.)
The RawVet List is a great place to send your vet so they can learn more about raw diets!
http://www.dogaware.com/dogfeeding.html
Re: BARF websites and books
www.rawfeddogs.net/
www.leerburg.com/feedingarawdiet.htm
www.b-naturals.com/May2006.php
www.b-naturals.com/natural.php
Re: BARF websites and books
www.barfworld.com/
www.njboxers.com/faqs.htm
www.barfers.com/
www.rawdogranch.com/
www.angelfire.com/biz/fro...awFed.html
www.b-naturals.com/default.php
www.ipindex.com/
www.caberfeidh.com/index.htm
www.bowchow.com/
www.forums.doghobbyist.com/fo...p?catid=29
http://www.rawfeddogs.net/
http://rawfed.com/
http://www.rawlearning.com/

premade raw:
www.omaspride.com
www.bravodiet.com
www.naturesvariety.com
www.primalpetfoods.com
www.barfproducts.com
www.amorepetfoods.com
http://pepperdogz.com
http://www.healthypawsllc.net/m_23.asp?pa=m_23
http://www.thehonestkitchen.com/index.shtml

[maryellen]

http://www.naturespet.com/barf.html

[maryellen]

premade raw in nj

http://www.healthypawsllc.net/m_23.asp?pa=m_23

[waltz4aidan]

i have been reading up on feeding my 7 week old pit some raw food every once in a while.. i feel weary about giving her boned chicken, so im assuming boneless chicken breast would be ok?

[maryellen]

at that age you can give meat alone, and get premade raw that has ground up bone in it too, this way you dont have to worry about the large bones, and once she gets older, you can then start her with chicken wings and graduate from there..

www.omaspride.com
bravo has a premade diet as well

they are both premade raw, so is natures variety they have a raw section too..

[maryellen]

kelp and salmon oil i have used from this place for 3 years now..

http://stores.ebay.com/Wild-Alaskan-Salmon-Oil

PURE WILD ARCTIC SALMON OIL™

• WILD SALMON OIL- Wild Arctic Salmon Oil is made from natural Alaskan wild caught salmon free of added hormone and antibiotic residue.
• WILD ALASKAN SALMON is naturally lower in hazardous contaminants.
• FREE OF IMPURITIES AND POLLUTANTS.
• HIGH IN OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS: EPA AND DHA. EPA has natural anti-inflammatory properties. DHA serves as the primary structural lipid of the brain and retina of the eye.
• Add to pets food daily for Beautiful Skin & Coat
• Improve heart health
• Improve arthritis
• Can aid cancer prevention and cancer support
• High in natural antioxidants
• Omega 3 Fatty Acids 27% min.
• Omega 6 Fatty Acids 3% min.
• DHA 9%
• EPA 9%
  Cats - 1/4 teaspoon
  Dogs to 25 lbs - 1/2 teaspoon
  Dogs 25 - 50 lbs - 1 teaspoon
  Dogs 50+ lbs - 1 1/2 teaspoon

Wild Arctic Salmon Oil

Our fish oil contains ONLY pure Wild Alaskan Salmon Oil. Each 4650 mg teaspoon provides approximately 1256 mg of total omega-3 fatty acids, including 838 mg of EPA and DHA. In addition, laboratory analysis reveals an amazing 32 distinct additional fatty acid molecules you’re unlikely to find in highly processed "purified" alternatives.



KELP

Kelp contains vitamins, minerals and provides trace elements all in a naturally balanced way. We have sourced the world’s finest quality kelp ecologically and sustainably harvested from the pure, unpolluted, remote reaches of northern Iceland processed using geothermal heat at a uniform low temperature, rather than high temperature oil or coal dryers, or sun drying. This process permits all the organic and biologically active substances ascribed to seaweed to be preserved intact.

Be sure to let me know if you need a copy of the NOP Organic certificate and I'll send it with the shipment.
PURE KELP

• Ingredients: 100% Certified Organic Kelp (Ascophyllum nodosum & Laminaria digitata)
  Through the ages kelp has been used to:
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• increase circulation
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• reduce breeding problems
• help inflamed joints
• enhance the immune system
  Sprinkle on food daily. May be moistened prior to feeding.
  Dogs to 25 lbs - 1/2 teaspoon
  Dogs 25+ lbs - 1 teaspoon
  Cats - 1/4 teaspoon
  Dairy & Beef Cattle 2 - 4oz
  Heifers & Calves 1 - 2oz
  Horses, Sheep & Goats 1/2oz
  Poultry 1 - 2% of feed ration
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[maryellen]

another great site

http://lepusreg.tripod.com/NRS1a.html

[DivineOblivion19]

If you don't mind I'd like to chime in. I use (and of course recommend) Sea Pet fish oils.

http://www.seapet.com/

All of their oils are are molecularly distilled and are free of toxins/heavy metals. Their lowest grade oil is the Omega-3 fish oil and has 1350mg/tsp of DHA & EPA; which are the main fatty acids that one should be looking for in a fish oil. EPA is most important for joint care and DHA is most important in brain activity. Of course they both improve other things like skin/coat, heart, liver, etc.

Also, for dogs in desperate need of fish oil (dogs with major skin problems or joint /arthritis problems) there is their Sea Pet Gold. Which has 2500mg/tsp if DHA/EPA.

I'm extremely happy with Sea Pet products. I take their human line every morning! I've even gotten the doctor I work for to carry their Sea Vet line, as none of the veterinary products he's seen has EPA/DHA levels this high.

[maryellen]

of course chime in!!!!! this thread is for all healthy natural stuff

[HappyDyes]

Maryellen,

Do you buy from Healthy Paws? I like some of their mixes. Can I pick up my order?

[maryellen]

yes i do lynda i was just there 2 weeks ago getting an order.. the prices on the internet include shipping, so the prices at the store are cheaper.

you can order online, and email her and say you are picking up the order. she is open until 2 on saturdays, and 5 pm on mon-friday. i go on saturdays after therapy and usually get there around 1:30.

i get the 5 lb and the 2lb stuff mostly. i normally get beef, chicken, venison, turkey, tripe. i just got the patties, which are pretty cool.. easy to store too..

if you need directions to go there i can give them to you.. its gonna be a haul from your house though, it takes me 40 minutes to get there when i leave newton at 12:15.... so from your house it will probably take an hour and a half depending on traffic...

[maryellen]

she is also having a january special chicken backs are cheap i THINK .99 cents a lb..

she does meat and veggies AND just meat and bone mixes, and just meat no bone.. you just tell her what you want and she does it..you have to order by a tuesday for it to be ready by saturday. she also has lamb and now goat too.

[maryellen]

i like her stuff as its ground fresh.. its not like omas or bravo.. when she grinds it its done right there on the premises, and then she deep freezes it..

[kaght]

i willl be starting to grow (breed) chickens and rabbits for mine

[808]

Thanks so much for the information. I've been soaking up all I can about feeding raw. We've just started with a couple of our dogs and they seem to love it. I think we'll be switching everyone over eventually.

It's just so tough to find GOOD dog food in Hawaii on a regular basis...and the ones that are in stock all the time are either super costly or the dogs simply don't like them or they cause poop that smells unbelievably nasty.

So far, after a week, I'm loving raw and the dogs seem to love it to. But I'm still interested in reading and learning as much as I can. So thanks again for the info.

[riskybusiness]

My boys have grilled chicken and rice or cooked mince and rice as well as their normal doggy mix but I got told not feed them raw meat by my bulldog's breeders because it makes them nasty? Is it ok every now and again?
Sam x

[lunadogge]

Risky,

What you were told by your breeder is a myth, and old wives tail.

[whistlekleen]

I live in in tampa area in florida. Specifically st petersburg. I was wondering if anybody knew where to get premade raw food around here?

[extrablues]

hi there. i normally sell pit bull pups for breeders in my circle. im more into training dogs but plan on breeding my own dogs and starting something up. i like the raw meat idea and feed a few of my dogs it. i have never been sure on just how much raw ground beef i should be feeding them and if i should feed with kibble and vitamins. would love it if some one with experience would walk me through it and told me the best way to feed raw meat.

[twiztidedition]

There is no worry feeding raw chicken bones to a dog, its the cooked ones that are harmfull. I don't feed the BARF diet, I do the Prey Model Diet, even though the BARF diet is 100% better for your dog than a kibble (dog food), the prey model diet is based on what your dog would eat if it was wild like its ancestors.
Here is the web site I used to get started, it has loads of info and facts, tells you what you can and can't feed and what you should and shouldn't do. I read the entire site before I started that way I knew who, what, where, and when.

www.rawfed.com

I've been doing this now for 3-4 months, and I LOVE IT!! Here is a list of the things I give my dogs daily.
2 chicken leg quarters
2-3 oz of chicken gizzard/heart mix
2-3 oz of chicken livers
1 1000mg pill of fish oil (or you can give 1/2can of king mackrel a week)
~~AND THATS IT~~
I have 8 dogs, 1 inside, 2 are pups about 5 months old, and I go through 100lbs of chicken leg quarters a week and spend only $40 on all the food. It takes me about 2 hours to put together the weeks meals for each dog.