[monkeys23]

This has been bothering me for some time. My boyfriend's brother is the type of person that I would not trust with a goldfish, much less a dog. But since he has friends in low places, he is the owner of a female pit bull. Of the popular "red nose" variety. Most definitly she is from a backyard breeder. The thing is, this poor dog is probably just over a year old (if that) and still has not been fixed, vaccinated in any way, and has most definitly been beat for absolutely no reason.

She has massive behavioral problems from both the abuse and the being in heat. I have not met her in person, but since his brother moved in with him, my boyfriend has described her constant (literally) barking, and pooping all over the house when she gets inside, and of course the poor thing doesn't listen because all shes known is is being coddled and then flipped out on for no reason (so "discipline" is out of the question). I know for a fact that she has never, ever been walked in her life--only left in the house or yard. Personally I think that is yet another form of abuse for such an active breed of dog.

She is in a slightly better position since they moved in with my boyfriend (i.e. I dont' think shes been abused lately), but she will always have those behavioral problems unless she is spayed and taken in by someone who will train and spend time with her. I have asked my boyfriend if we could sneak her off to a rescue or something and tell his brother that she ran off, but he refuses to do that because of family loyaties. I have also been very tempted to turn his brother into the ASPCA, but I'd prefer the dog have a chance rather than just be ignored or put down because she is a pit bull.

Its really been bothering me to know about this situation and not be able to do anything. Has anyone been in a similar situation or have any sort of idea how to make something positive come out of this?

My roommate has even said that she would rather we foster her for a while rather than leave the poor thing in neglect. The thing is that this guy sees the poor critter as a status symbol to keep around and is pretty darn good at b.s.ing his way around things...

[Irena]

i really don't know what can be sugested to help, such ppl won't train or put any money into this dog that's for sure,wait when he'll discover he can make some money from breeding herthat will be fun
as isee you got several options here
A. call the ASPCA under anonymous and let them have her, yeah she probably would be pts but she also will get there if he'll keep going thatway with her after she'll run away/ bite someone or someting from any kind of reason/ taken anyway by the ASPCA because someone els didn't liked how she was looking at him we got enough of those kind of ppl anyway

B try to offer the guy some money to take her away from him but again he'll just go there and take another one or get excited from the idea of making mney on her and sale her away to someone worse.

C. maybe any kind of local pit bull reascue?

D ignore

E try to speak with him anyway to offer some kind of help it can hel you never know

annddd i'm out of ideas
good luck with it

[monkeys23]

Yeah I'm leaning toward calling the ASPCA. He is the type of person who does not respect the thoughts of any woman (although I've seen him try to b.s. his way into making them think he does), so whatever I say will fall on deaf ears no matter what kind of crap he tells me during the conversation. And I know that he is the type to try and weasel as much money as he can out of whatever deal he is trying to spin at the moment, so I don't want to offer him money for her.

Today I was looking into rescues, but did not see any that were specifically for pitbulls or geared towards helping dogs with issues recover. I guess I'll keep looking. Maybe I should offer to foster for the shelter until she can get a new home? So at least then she'd get some training. Shelters around here aren't too horribly against pit bulls because they have some up for adoption.

I definitly can't just ignore it because its been nagging at me for a while now.

[Vanella]

I guess it depends on the circumstances......I had two pitbulls taken from my brother....one was extremely HA and one was DA...I had the HA one put down and I still have the DA one 13 years later....

Sure it caused a rift between my brother and I, but couldn't take the abuse that I saw any longer...and I knew NOTHING about pit bulls at that time. In fact THAT was my introduction to DA when I brought Rocket home and threw him in the backyard with our blue tick hound....(thats another story)

So it sorta depends on you I guess is what I'm saying.....

[Michele]

If you can find a rescue that would take the dog, then I would "take" the dog and bring the dog to that rescue. No one has to know.

[Suki]

not too much saddens me more than reading a scenerio such as this, ....
as, it's ALWAYS the dog who suffers....
have you asked your BF to try to talk some sense into his brother?
have you tried, despite the fact that you're a women? perhaps if you point out the disadvantages he's causing to this animal, and if he has even half a heart, he may just listen. perhaps his inablilty to properly care for this dog just may be due to sheer ignorance and lack of education/understanding on responsible dog ownership. educate him and point out his mistakes. bring to his attention that it is the dog who is suffering and it's due to him.
dunno.....

sux, tho, imo. i'm SUCH an animal lover and i find these types of posts so very disturbing!
i would point out the mistakes he's making, in a nice way, so as to not put him immediately on the defense, and see what happens. but i know, if i were in your shoes that i could not bite my tongue on this....

[JoeFeezy]

This is horrible. Something definitely has to be done. I can't suggest anything new, as i would either steal the dog or if it was at least a half decent person try to talk to them.

[monkeys23]

Yeah it pretty much sucks majorly. I would try talking to him, but he parties so much that he can't even meet his own needs/obligations, much that of a pet. So even if he did make changes it would be to make himself look good and would be sporadic at best.

I actually asked my boyfriend if we could do something about it, but due to cultural reasons family is always #1 even if that family member is in the wrong. Same with how pets are to be around magically behaving, but not wanting attention....
Kind of why I am so closely bonded to my dog because gee I like to give him lots of pets and go for a couple walks a day (my boyfriend still calls the dog his, which is another story completely). I was told I couldn't have Sparky live with me permanently because he needed to "watch" my boyfriends house. I laughed out loud of the thought of him being a watchdog...

I also havn't gone over to my boyfriends house since his brother moved in with him, so me showing up to nab the dog(s) would be kinda obvious... I'm also kind of nervous that one of the creeps this guy hangs out with might steal them before I get there...

I never could stand animal neglect, but its gotten worse since my 14yr old border collie died last summer due to completely preventable causes.
And now here I am with a new dog I love who isn't "mine" and another poor dog I'm seeing in a terrible situation.

[Michele]

i'm sticking to my original post....."take" the dog, but find a good rescue first