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02-19-2012, 03:11 PM #1
Personality of different bloodlines?
This is a total newb question, but something that has always sparked my interest.
I know a lot of people prefer certain bloodlines, but why? I am sure there are SOME people out there that prefer the look of one dog from a certain bloodline over another, but what about personality(Is that the right way to describe it?) Do certain bloodlines t end to have a higher drive than others?
02-19-2012, 06:06 PM #2
I have no Idea. But I'm hoping others will chime in...
I have asked the same question, I got that some bloodlines do have different personality traits than others. Also drive and stuff depend from what I understand on the type of dog, like working, game bred, show that type of thing, that plays into what the drive and stuff will be more than the specific bloodline I think, although I have heard some bloodlines are wild as hell lol but most of those are game bred dogs so that kind of explains it..
02-19-2012, 07:52 PM #4
I have also heard some lines tend to produce higher strung dogs. Eli dogs being one.
Yea thats what I heard too, I kind of like high strung animals, except horses lol they always make me think I am going to get bitten
02-19-2012, 08:46 PM #7
02-19-2012, 10:16 PM #9
LOL, most dogs aren't "worked" anymore. It's more a matter of perspective and personal preference than accomplishment these days. I say I have a Colby ... someone else says they have ...
Two Eyes (Fat Bill)
Homer (Mountain Man)
... and quess what ... they aren't "worked" anymore either and I attribute their survival to their historical significance, past accomplishments and name ... not NECESSARILY their drive. But that TOO is just my uneducated $#@!umption as well
Last edited by JoeBingo; 02-19-2012 at 10:20 PM.
Saying that those bloodlines aren't worked anymore is false. Some of those bloodlines are still used around the world today, and even here in the USA by a few brave, stupid souls. I don't know of a single pure Colby dog still being used today or recently... I'd love to hear if there are because I'd be importing two pups, LOL.
02-19-2012, 10:43 PM #11
Furthermore, even you have pointed out in other posts that overseas rules are different than what traditional matches were run under, here. Even if you did import a winning dog or dog from winning lines ... you still might never know if the dog is game or the sire and dam, game.
My point is that the integrity of those bloodlines as manifest by todays dogs are in GENERAL ... not what the originals were. Except in the context that they have been line-bred for decades and therefore by $#@!ociation, $#@!UMED to have SOME potential ... and Colby has done it the longest and with the most honest documentation.
All I really know is that I've only ever owned one Colby dog and will just have to wait and see what kind of drive this pup has. All dogs are individuals, but I can't argue with the integrity and potential that is there from the over 110 year old pure line-bred bloodline he's from.
Last edited by JoeBingo; 02-19-2012 at 10:47 PM.
Hell no I wouldn't game test because I don't want to be some hairy guy's jail bitch, LOL! I only meant that some bloodlines have proven dogs up closer to the present day than others. You're chances at a true bulldog are higher off two proven parents than a dog with no working dogs in his pedigree til 20 gems back. All I'm saying is that many Frisco dogs are more closely related to proven ancestors and so are bound to have higher drive than a Colby dog with no titles in his ped for 15 gens or so, where it seems like the dogs are being bred basically because they are am inspiring piece of the breed's history.
02-19-2012, 11:03 PM #13
Cliffdog, I'll let this stand and you can take from it what you will ... an e-mail exchange I had just last night with a friend of mine in Maryland. My friend was one of the first Super Moderators here on PBC back in 2007 and was a LONG time member of GD (and maybe a mod there) before that, but hasn't posted on here since early 2008. Maybe some will have an idea whom I'm talking about if you've been around a while. Anyway ...
She has 4 APBTs on her yard. Three are from game-bred bloodlines, "close-ups" like you're talking about cliffdog, and one is a Colby. This is what she had to say about the dog she got from straight off Lou Colby's yard in 2009 (copied from my e-mail, we were mostly talking about feeding), "Health-wise he's doing great. his structure is nice, his muscle tone is finally starting to define itself and his coat is perfect~nice and shiney. never dry. all in all i'm REAL happy with him. he's strong as an ox. undoubtedly THE strongest dog i've ever owned. his will and drive are great and he keeps at an exercise longer than the others will, so i work him the most and honestly spend the most time with him. (truth be told, he's my favorite!)"
02-19-2012, 11:17 PM #14
I read in one of the threads I searched up that Watchdog dogs are slightly more wary of strangers, which is where they got their name...is that true?
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02-20-2012, 12:24 AM #16
yep, very few dogs that you or I are likely to get our hands on have been matched here for MANY generations, regardless of bloodline. OH but there are plenty who will try and convince you otherwise
So it all boils down to personal preference, research, experience (yours, mine or others) and luck. After all that, I hope you can be happy with what you have. I know I am and that's ALL that matters.
There are a lot of Colby haters "out there" on the Interwebs and sometimes folks buy into their spiel and repeat it without any knowledge or experience or research of their own. Your oft repeated statement of 20 gens of Colby's not being tested for example. Do you know how far back 20 generations go ?? Check my dogs peds and go back 20 (count them sire to sire and dam to dam) on both sides and see where you stand ... ONLINE PEDIGREES ::  :: BRED IN MEMORY OF LOU COLBY ... prolly on a dock in Boston in the late 1800 to early 1900's waiting for an Irish or English dog to get off the ship and it might look a great deal like that dog in my avatar.
... or folks buy into the game-bred hype that in reality and in these times MAY likely be little more than fluff and Interweb posturing and boasting.
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