Pit Bull Chat Forum

looking for concete waters

fatbaby12 — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 05:14:36 GMT

needing concete waters for my dogs can any body help

New ADBA Club In Mid-Missouri Membership Drive

Boogieman — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:40:59 GMT

Hi everybody. We are in the process of forming a new ADBA club in Mid Missouri and are working hard to get members. You do NOT have to be in the area to help support the club. We are accepting applications for anybody who would like to help us get started. We are making great strides in obtaining our sanctioning from the ADBA, but we need to have 30 registered members.

Anybody who would be willing to help please contact me via PM.

Single memberships are $20
Couples are $30
Family is $40

Anybody that could help us get started would be greatly appreciated. We are committed to putting on a great show here once we get things lined up and obtain our sanctioning.

Thanks for taking your time to come read this :)

Bicycle hater!!!

cdsykes — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:35:00 GMT

Okay...my boxer Cosmo absolutely hates bikes!! His story is a typical, previous owner was irresponsible etc. etc. long story short he fell into my posession, which btw i couldnt be happier with, i would rather rescue a homeless than buy another. His all around physical condition was horrendous, every bone in his body protruded he was severely emaciated. and was the happiest dog in the world the moment i put him in my car and drove home with him. I do not know his history but i have a feeling it was sheltered. After about a month of getting him into better health my daughter decided she wanted to ride her bike in the back yard so i let her.....yeh good part....She comes in screaming her head off and crying and ofc being a parent i freak out. I seriously thought he had hurt her and after almost 10 mins of sobbing from my child...i managed to piece together what happened. Cosmo revealed that he hates a bike, or anything that has wheels for that matter. He literally chased her down and pulled her bike out from under her and demolished the front wheel...her bike R.I.P no longer works. Thankfully she was not injured at all with exception of her feelings and bike. my nieghbors kids ride their bikes back and forth past my back yard where he is fenced and he still goes NUTS!!! I work full time (6 days a week) and it is somewhat difficult to get the proper training in for him along with Harley up and coming...What can be done to prevent/stop this behavior????? I fear if he gets out of the back yard he may do this to someone elses bike or cause some damage elsewhere. To clarify..he has never harmed my kids at all he was a bit rough at first but we fixed that with some time.

Nutri Source dog food

SteveKY — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:01:18 GMT

Anyone used this brand? I did a search and found nothing. Its supposed to be a premium dog food with no grains. I got the salmon 30lb bag on sale for $40 regular $60 from a local pet store. I went in there with intentions on getting TOTW Pacific Stream but this was regular the same price but $20 cheaper on sale. I had him on Diamond naturals lamb but his poop is runny on that and even worse on the Chicken so figured maybe it was the grains they put in it.

Ugh!!! Sadie and PARVO!!

3babies — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:48:01 GMT

I don't know if I am over reacting, but Sadie vomited tonight. She hasn't vomited for a week, her poop has been normal and she eats like a champ. She has gained back all her weight. We thought she was out of danger Her vet calls every day to see how she is. I told her how well she is doing and she said that is good, that parvo symptoms usually go away a week or 2 after starting. Well, it is 2 weeks.

Tonight I had to go out for a few hours. It was the first time I left Sadie since she got sick. My 16 year old daughter and husband were watching her. My daughter decided to take Sadie out back while she shot her gun. She said Sadie was eating some grass and nibbling on rocks. She swears she didn't swallow the rocks. Then Sadie was brought inside and fed dinner. She was running around like crazy when I got home. More than she has ever run. I took her outside and she was still running and running, so I brought her in and she threw up, a lot, and I mean a lot.

I am praying it isn't the parvo, or rocks. I know dogs eat grass when their tummies hurt. She is sleeping very restless. Keeps moving all over the place, like she is still uncomfortable.

Ugh!!! After what we have gone through I can't help but worry. she is such a precious little girl.

Weight loss progress

BlankZ — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:47:06 GMT

First some Before and After pics :P
Nirv weighed over 80 pounds around july/august/september

She now weigh's 71 pounds

now im going to try to get her back down to 60 pounds

She was on a few meds for allergies and my mom barely ever let me take her out for to long because of it smh. Now after doing ALOT of reshearch all she may have is a damn yeast infection which she was never treated for. So now she's not on steroids or prednisone and were treating her only for the yeast infection to see if she gets better.

Ive started walking her 2 miles in the morning. Im going to add another 2 miles at night aswell this week. Is it to early to introduce a bike? I was thinking of running her at least 5 mins so she can get used to it.

Any tips on how I can get her stomach to tighten up again?

another random pic :p

Top 5 + 1 for January, 2012

KC Dog Blog — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:30:08 GMT

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How to Build a Dog

Vicki — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:29:53 GMT

How to Build a Dog
Scientists have found the secret recipe behind the spectacular variety of dog shapes and sizes, and it could help unravel the complexity of human genetic disease.

By Evan Ratliff
Photograph by Robert Clark

It's an unusually balmy mid-February afternoon in New York City, but the lobby of the Hotel Pennsylvania is teeming with fur coats.

The wearers are attendees of what is undoubtedly the world's elite canine mixer, one that takes place each year on the eve of the Westminster Kennel Club dog show. Tomorrow the nation's top dogs from 173 breeds will compete for glory across the street at Madison Square Garden. But today is more akin to a four-legged meet-and-greet, as owners shuffle through the check-in line at the competition's official lodgings. A basset hound aims a droopy eye across a luggage cart at a wired-up terrier. A pair of muscled Rhodesian ridgebacks, with matching leather leashes, pause for a brief hello with a fluffy Pyrenean shepherd. Outside the gift shop a Tibetan mastiff with paws the size of human hands goes nose to nose with a snuffling pug.

The variety on display in the hotel lobby�a dizzying array of body sizes, ear shapes, nose lengths, and barking habits�is what makes dog lovers such obstinate partisans. For reasons both practical and whimsical, man's best friend has been artificially evolved into the most diverse animal on the planet�a staggering achievement, given that most of the 350 to 400 dog breeds in existence have been around for only a couple hundred years. The breeders fast-forwarded the normal pace of evolution by combining traits from disparate dogs and accentuating them by breeding those offspring with the largest hints of the desired attributes. To create a dog well suited for cornering badgers, for instance, it is thought that German hunters in the 18th and 19th centuries brought together some combination of hounds�the basset, a native of France, being the likely suspect�and terriers, producing a new variation on the theme of dog with stubby legs and a rounded body that enabled it to chase its prey into the mouth of a burrow: hence the dachshund, or "badger dog" in German. (A rival, flimsier history of the breed has it dating back, in some form, to ancient Egypt.) Pliable skin served as a defense mechanism, allowing the dog to endure sharp-toothed bites without significant damage. A long and sturdy tail helped hunters to retrieve it from an animal's lair, badger in its mouth.

The breeders gave no thought, of course, to the fact that while coaxing such weird new dogs into existence, they were also tinkering with the genes that determine canine anatomy in the first place*. Scientists since have assumed that underneath the morphological diversity of dogs lay an equivalent amount of genetic diversity. A recent explosion in canine genomic research, however, has led to a surprising, and opposite, conclusion: The vast mosaic of dog shapes, colors, and sizes is decided largely by changes in a mere handful of gene regions. The difference between the dachshund's diminutive body and the Rottweiler's massive one hangs on the sequence of a single gene. The disparity between the dachshund's stumpy legs�known officially as disproportionate dwarfism, or chondrodysplasia�and a greyhound's sleek ones is determined by another one.

The same holds true across every breed and almost every physical trait. In a project called CanMap, a collaboration among Cornell University, UCLA, and the National Institutes of Health, researchers gathered DNA from more than 900 dogs representing 80 breeds, as well as from wild canids such as gray wolves and coyotes. They found that body size, hair length, fur type, nose shape, ear positioning, coat color, and the other traits that together define a breed's appearance are controlled by somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 genetic switches. The difference between floppy and erect ears is determined by a single gene region in canine chromosome 10, or CFA10. The wrinkled skin of a Chinese shar-pei traces to another region, called HAS2. The patch of ridged fur on Rhodesian ridgebacks? That's from a change in CFA18. Flip a few switches, and your dachshund becomes a Doberman, at least in appearance. Flip again, and your Doberman is a Dalmatian.

"The story that is emerging," says Robert Wayne, a biologist at UCLA, "is that the diversity in domestic dogs derives from a small genetic tool kit."

Media reports about the gene for red hair, alcoholism, or breast cancer give the false impression that most traits are governed by just one or a few genes. In fact, the Tinkertoy genetics of dog morphology is a complete aberration. In nature, a physical trait or disease state is usually the product of a complex interaction of many genes, each one making a fractional contribution. Height in humans, for instance, is determined by the interaction of some 200 gene regions.

So why are dogs so different? The answer, the researchers say, lies in their unusual evolutionary history. Canines were the earliest domesticated animal, a process that started somewhere between 20,000 and 15,000 years ago, most likely when gray wolves began scavenging around human settlements. Dog experts differ on how active a role humans played in the next step, but eventually the relationship became a mutual one, as we began employing dogs for hunting, guarding, and companionship. Sheltered from the survival-of-the-fittest wilderness, those semidomesticated dogs thrived even though they harbored deleterious genetic mutations�stumpy legs, for instance�that would have been weeded out in smaller wild populations.

Thousands of years later, breeders would seize on that diverse raw material when they began creating modern breeds. They tended to grab traits they desired from across multiple breeds�or tried to rapidly replicate mutations in the same one�in order to get the dog they wanted. They also favored novelty, since the more distinct a line of dogs appeared, the more likely it was to garner official recognition as a new breed. Such artificial selection tended to favor single genes with a large impact, allowing traits to be fixed more rapidly than groups of smaller-impact genes ever could.

"It's kind of like when you set your remote control to control your TV, your stereo, and your cable," says Carlos Bustamante, a CanMap geneticist now at Stanford University. "You hit the on-off switch, and it does them all."

This revelation has implications the scientists are just beginning to unravel�most important, for the understanding of genetic disorders in humans. Already, more than a hundred dog diseases have been mapped to mutations in particular genes, many of them with human counterparts. Those diseases may have a whole array of mutations leading to a risk of disease in dogs, as they do in us. But because dogs have been genetically segregated into breeds developed from just a few original individuals, each breed has a much smaller set of errant genes�often only one or two�underlying the disease. For instance, Cornell researchers studying the degenerative eye disease retinitis pigmentosa�shared by humans and dogs�found 20 different canine genes causing the disorder. But a different gene was the culprit in schnauzers than in poodles, giving researchers some specific leads for where to start looking in humans. Meanwhile a recent study of a rare type of epilepsy in dachshunds found what appears to be a unique genetic signature, which could shed new light on the disorder in us as well.

In short, while the Victorian breeders were crafting dogs to suit their tastes, they were also creating genetically isolated populations, little knowing how useful they might be to scientists in the future. The possibilities are especially abundant for cancer, certain types of which can show up as often as 60 percent of the time in some dog breeds but only once in every 10,000 humans.

"We are the people who are doing the genetics," says Elaine Ostrander, who studies dog evolution and disease at the National Human Genome Research Institute at NIH. "But breeders are the people who have done all the fieldwork."

One category of trait that has so far proved resistant to the CanMap analysis is behavior. Only a single mutant behavioral gene has been identified to date: the dog version of the gene for obsessive-compulsive disorder in humans, which can cause Doberman pinschers to obsessively suck on their fur to the point of bleeding. More common characteristics such as loyalty, tenaciousness, or the instinct to herd clearly have genetic underpinnings. But they can also be affected by factors ranging from a dog's nutrition to the presence of children in the house, making them difficult to quantify rigorously enough to study. Nevertheless, "we've probably got as good a shot, if not better, of understanding behavior in dogs over other animals," says Stanford's Bustamante. After all, he points out, there are millions of dog lovers out there willing and eager to help with the fieldwork.

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What do you feed...

destinoscelgo — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:16:41 GMT

for your boneless beef and pork sources?

I originally had a decent deal with my local butcher, but his boss turned it down so we only get the chicken for crazy cheap. These guys want $3 a lb for boneless beef or pork and meanwhile they will rarely ever have it!

I can really only afford to spend about $1-$2 of meat a lb but I had no choice but to order from hare-today...which it's base price is cheaper for the trim, but with shipping it comes out to the same price which to me is ridiculous.

Anyway...Just curious what do you guys use as your boneless beef and pork sources?

lol.

sonyasaranee — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:44:17 GMT

I found it hilarious to walk in on her declothing her tortured toy. XP

"Iz like em no shirtz."

RIP Tony

Tiffany3483 — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:33:12 GMT

My Dad is getting married tomorrow to his high school sweet heart, Patricia (Pat) on her birthday.

Today Pat's son, Tony passed away from a massive heart attack. He left a wife and 4 young kids behind. :(

I didn't know him really well, but tomorrow we were suppose to become family. I feel bad and not really sure what to say to Pat. I can't imagine how she feels. :(

Things You CAN'T Do When You're NOT a Dog

Vicki — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:56:01 GMT

Florida HB 997 / SB 1322 on committee agendas, Feb 7

StopBSL.com — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:20:19 GMT

FL HB 997 / SB 1322 will each*be heard by their respective committees on Feb 7. These bills will repeal Miami-Dade’s breed ban. SB 1322 Florida Senate Bill 1322 will be heard by the Governmental Oversight and Accountability Committee*on February … Continue reading →

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Capone's brother

jackielynn91 — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:08:39 GMT

okay so i went to the animal shelter today to walk some dogs because it was nice out and i haven't been in awhile
as soon as i get out of the truck i see a dog i know...it ends up being capone's brother dino....he was freaking out and whining at me. he lived with me when his ex owner was my roommate and my brother has the mom..its a long story...
poor boy has been handed around and lived in home to home
anyways i couldn't leave him there and he is now staying at my parents for the moment im afraid to have him and capone together both them being males and intact they could play one minute and fight the next...they might keep him im really hoping they do

i have been looking for a puppy or young dog to get but i dont think it would be a good idea having another male...especially a male apbt

OJ Explains His Flirt Pole Technique!

Vicki — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:08:26 GMT

My name is OJ, flirt pole extraordinaire!

Focus is key!

A little too low!

A wee bit too high!

Brake test!

Focusing, focusing......concentrate....

Mission accomplished!

And I'll be seein' ya later, thanks for lookin'!

The Piranha

destinoscelgo — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:05:42 GMT

I don't have many pictures of my tank but today I took a couple so I figured I would share!
(don't mind the empty tank...the tanks about to be cleaned since they got sick so everything being scrubbed down like crazy...they are so miserable lol)

Their names are Scar and Jafar (Tacky I know) and I used to be able to tell them apart because one time they got into a fight and one got his fin ripped off pretty bad so that one became Scar lol)

Anyway here they are!

Zooming across the tank!

A brief "Hey wait a second who the hell are you??" moment between the two haha

A close up

Thanks for looking at my pictures! =)

Malice and Mozart

destinoscelgo — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:57:58 GMT

Recently took a few shots of the bit-I mean...cats. =)
Most of them are of Mozart (The black and white,) since Malice tends to hate the camera ha ha (shes the tortoise shell)
Here you go!

The "Prince" making himself comfy in the crib...(he's actually Seal, not sure if you can see it in the pictures..)

On his throne...

Malice fell in the garbage lol

What are you looking at??

Mozart checking out the fish

Pretty kitty

Okay...so I lied..the two pictures I had of Malice got completely ruined by irfanview =( Here are some old ones I have!

Getting ready to attack!

Malice with Mozart when he was a kitten

Sharing a ham bone back when Raj was still a pup (can't do that anymore!)

Malice as a kitten...she was the definition of terror...

This is a picture of her brother Mayhem, we took both of them in from the outside when Mama cat abandoned them at 3 weeks old. Mayhem however...was a little...slow I guess and he didn't make it. We never did find out what was wrong with him.
Rest in Peace little guy <3 (funny he is the opposite markings of Mozart)

Thanks for looking!

Michigan pitty owner

jkrens — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:43:30 GMT

Love this forum. I've been a bully breed owner for over 10 years. From Grand Rapids, MI.

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If you let your dog on the sofa.....

Sandi — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:12:32 GMT

Everything about this video is wrong, I know it. Keep your dog on the floor, don't feed them tidbits, don't let them gnaw the knuckle off a drumstick, don't tease them. Love them, though.

You guys should really...

Teal — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:05:24 GMT

Vote for Arrow :D

I don't enter contests, but my best friend did... and seriously, why not vote for him? He's friggin cute! lol

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

You just have to "Like" the picture.. not like I'm asking TOO much from yall :p

Thanks! :)

Oh my god Raj puppy pictures!!

destinoscelgo — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:48:45 GMT

I was going thru my old hard drive and found a couple of old puppy pictures of Raj =)
Here they are from when he was 10 weeks old =D

Last but not least...Raj at 10 weeks, and Malice and probably 4 weeks <3

In need of an Angel

majormeirose — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:23:38 GMT

Need to find good home for 2yr old Red-Nosed Pitbull by Feb.8 2012. Ft. Collins, CO I have had him since he was 7 wks old. Because of my personal circumstances I can no longer keep my baby, his name is Major. My heart is broken and I pray I can find him a loving place to call home

Tell Honda to Give Shelter Pets a �Day Off�

HumaneWatch — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:10:07 GMT

It’s Super Bowl weekend, and we’re looking forward to sitting back with some wings and nachos and enjoying a good game. Like many folks, we’re also psyched for the commercials—especially one from Honda that’s getting a bit of buzz due to its “Ferris Bueller” theme.
Unfortunately, Honda is also sponsoring HSUS’s Genesis Awards in March. HSUS is a group with a radical PETA agenda that deceptively raises money as if it’s a pet shelter group, yet doesn’t run a single pet shelter and gives only 1 percent of the money it raises to pet shelters.
Shelter pets are under pressure every day, and the more support that goes to HSUS (which already has $200 million tucked) is support that pet shelters need. Millions of pets are euthanized every year because shelters don’t have the resources, especially in this economy. Meanwhile, HSUS tucks away millions into its pension plan.
So please go to Honda’s Facebook wall and ask the company to give shelter pets something to say about by giving its support to a local humane society instead. We doubt Honda would fund a PETA event, and we’re confident they’d be open to join Yellow Tail, Pilot Travel Centers, Mary Kay cosmetics, Precious Cat kitty litter, and Hill's Science Diet dog food in realizing that there are better ways to help animals than giving money to HSUS.
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Clicker training behavior change?

xSupra — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:25:34 GMT

I have had my Bully for about a month now, he's almost two years old. He's had pretty much perfect behavior so far. Today, I decided to try to start clicker training him, and while setting the clicker... (Clicking and giving him a treat so he associates the noise with a treat.) He started acting strange..For the first few minutes he was fine, and then he started snatching the treats out of my hand, and bit my thumb a little bit. He is usually VERY gentle with taking treats out of your hand, so I was confused when this happened. After he did that, he started running around the house avoiding me like he knew he did something wrong, I guess. Not sure what to do at this point. Any advice?

makes me feel lucky, but sad :(

whit8908 — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:07:22 GMT

i have a neighbor and she has 13 chi's!!! I personally dont see how on earth she can handle that because they are ALWAYS barking,and she used to breed them. She said she has actually rehomed quite a few of them because her 90 year old mother had to come live with her so she quit breeding. Anyways, i was outside talking to her and one of them had a seizure! i have never seen that for myself but its so sad :( she said shes taken him to the vet and theyve run test and dont know what causes them but its so sad. she said his last about 3-4 minutes then hell be ok. I feel so lucky (knock on wood) that i havent ever had an animal that has had to deal with that, or any other serious illness. I honestly dont know what I would do! I guess no real point to this other than I consider myself lucky, and my sympathy goes out to anyone who has to deal with something like that :(

going with the theme for feb. imgheavy!

king_leonidas — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:05:28 GMT

some shots from a very sunny morning and some "eye" shots.

Not sure what happened with this one because I never changed settings!

And the link to the album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3&l=87c64d99ad

:D I just can't WAIT to be able to get outside, it's been getting really warm lately so I have a feeling maybe tomorrow we'll go to the ball park for some play and pics!

Out For A Walk ~ 42 Saint Bernards

JoeBingo — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:26:26 GMT

Out for a walk with our 42 Saint Bernards. Lasquite's reg Saint Bernards on Lasqueti Island Canada.

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New pics of the Monkey Bumps

AmberL — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:21:31 GMT

Impressed? I think not...

Really hard to get her up and about without her ball

the Hippo for good measure...she doesn't do much

THE END

February 3, 1959 ~ The Day The Music Died

JoeBingo — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:05:42 GMT

Rest in Peace Buddy Holly, Richie Valens and J.P. Richardson "The Big Bopper"

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/crash.htm

New Staffy/pit mom

TemperJen — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:31:13 GMT

Hi All! I'm a new mom to a 2 year old Staffy/pitbull mix and wanted to link up with like minded pittie lovers.